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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Haych on Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:40 am

    I know that and I do feel bad for him - but he just seemed so daft!

    even kelly just said with males like that leave the females to tend the nest lol

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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Storm on Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:43 am

    My female done most of the collecting work to lmao, but he got the hang of it. Smile


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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by kel on Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:58 am

    a plastic plate that floats is better hun

    and yea.. first timers you have to give them atleast 3 full tries to get it right before counting them as bad/hard breeders


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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Storm on Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:38 pm

    Well i thought mine was a muncher he used to get most of the eggs in his mouth and spit them evenly all over. It made it alot harder to se the egs lmao


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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Haych on Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:39 pm

    well dad has been fired and Mum is tending atm

    Will have to wait and see how things go

    keep everything crossed for me!
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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Teri on Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:15 pm

    Good luck hun Smile
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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Haych on Sat May 01, 2010 4:48 am

    well this morning was VERY bad for me Laughing

    On the advice of Kelly she recommended trying the female with the nest as Lucy did most of the work originally - with just a few of the eggs.

    i did this and she is an AMAZING mom - she is tending the nest, putting back fallen eggs and making more bubbles!

    the only issue I had this morning was I had put Spikey in a breeding trap so I could feed him up after the spawn and woke this morning to around 100 eggs surrounding him! The reason he wouldnt tend the nest is he had his gob full!!

    Syphoned up the eggs and put them back in the breeding tank - but when I tried to turkey baster them onto the plate I blew more off!!

    In the end though, as soon as I realised what a good mother Lucy was I have put all eggs on the floor by the nest and she has duly sucked them up and spat in the nest

    Now its up to Lucy and nature XD

    She still has breeding bars!









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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by kel on Sat May 01, 2010 6:58 am

    thats great news hun

    i'm so glad she took over for you... its not often you get a female who will look after them... most will eat them in seconds

    fingers croseed you have some wrigglers tomz Very Happy


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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Teri on Sat May 01, 2010 7:33 am

    Fingers crossed hun, hope all goes to plan, and good mummy Lucy Smile
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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Nina on Sat May 01, 2010 9:13 am

    aww haych thats great , what a good girl lucy is!!!! fingers crossed for the wrigglers!!
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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Haych on Sat May 01, 2010 11:06 am

    thanks guys!

    i can officially say she has took a massive weight off my shoulders - shes doing a great job!
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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Chard56 on Sat May 01, 2010 12:53 pm

    Absolutely incredible! Half the time I have to beat my females off with a stick to keep them from gobbling eggs you have a remarkable girl there!!
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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by kel on Sat May 01, 2010 8:00 pm

    I knew she was gonna be one of those rare perfect breeders... treat her like gold dust!!

    the little gem Very Happy

    For anyone new to breeding, this method is the complete opposite way to do things and its very rare it works so it must be tried with caution and also expect that 99% of the time, leaving a female with the eggs will result in them all being ate within minutes.


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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Haych on Sat May 01, 2010 8:49 pm

    I understand that Kel - I am only following your guidance on THIS particular spawn (as dad was clueless lol)

    but

    I HAVE WRIGGLERS Very Happy

    I have only seen two but there are no eggs and mom is still duly putting them back in Very Happy
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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Teri on Sat May 01, 2010 8:54 pm

    banana yayyyyyyyyyy congratulations hun
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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by MandyD on Sat May 01, 2010 9:15 pm

    Think she was saying that for the benefit of us newbies who have no idea where to start with breeding LOL, not you hun Very Happy
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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by kel on Sat May 01, 2010 9:36 pm

    congratulations hun Very Happy


    (yes, the world of caution was for those who are completely new just incase they thought this is the standard way of doing things)

    it's hard to see the centre of the nest but i'm sure there's more in there, as they get more active you should start to see more.

    keep a close eye on lucy incase she does decide to eat them, fingers crossed she wont but even males will occasionally eat the fry in first days before removal so it is possible.

    You're doing well!
    As soon as free swimming you remove her and feed fry the vinegar eel or microworms, at around day 6-7 you start the bbs but it is worth hatching a tiny trial batch now so you know how long it takes to hatch and have a rough idea of how much shrimp you'll get.


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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Bettanut on Sat May 01, 2010 9:52 pm

    WOW, I am amazed. A female taking care of the eggs/fry.

    Go Lucy , your an amazing betta!

    Congrats Haych.
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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Nina on Sun May 02, 2010 4:09 am

    awww congrats on the wrigglers hun

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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Storm on Sun May 02, 2010 4:24 am

    WOW great mum you have there hun, just keep an eye out now hun. Just incase she likes the lok of those wrigglers.

    Goodluck, hows dad?


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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Haych on Sun May 02, 2010 6:30 am

    dads poorly Sad he has some cotton wool growing on his fins so I am about to tub him and meth blue treatment for him.

    Lucy isnt eating the babies as she spits them back in the nest when they fall Very Happy
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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by kel on Sun May 02, 2010 6:34 am

    hope he recovers fast hun

    poor guy

    hopefully the babies will be horizontally swimming tomz morning so you can remove lucy too

    then you will be really underpressure with feeding her up again, getting him treated and fry with cultures.


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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Haych on Sun May 02, 2010 8:26 am

    lol dont!

    He is tubbed with meth blue and floating his tub in the main tank so as to keep him heated.

    Lucy is keeping well - I have a feeling she has eaten my baby cherry shrimps lol

    As for keeping the cultures - I'm pants!!

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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Storm on Sun May 02, 2010 8:02 pm

    Hows the baby hun


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    Re: black orchid spawn

    Post by Haych on Sun May 02, 2010 11:33 pm

    umm.... dunno lol

    I have DEFFO seen one swimming around and it is using the IAL as a home to lay on and maybe seen a second

    Removed lucy and she is in a floating trap - has been fed and keeping an eye on any infections

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