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    SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by damo2904 on Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:17 am

    Hi guys, you know I mentioned awhile ago about these two....





    ....well I've just been home to Cornwall for 5 days, left these two in the breeding tank for that time, my partner kept ringing me saying nothings happening, there ignoring each other & not interested.
    So the other night, i told him to release the female in the tank with the male & see if that kinda gets the male going.....again nothing!
    Well a bubblenest which is the tiniest I've seen for awhile, (well Pasty & Wizard did make huge ones) had pop up in the corner yesterday.
    Anyways today i got home & the bubblenest was dispercing, but there was a slight clump of it under a leaf. So i thought what the heck, she has breeding bars I'll put them together for an hour & if nothing happens I'll try something else.
    Well left them for any hour & they are spawning!!!! Very Happy

    Piccy's later.


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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by Teri on Wed Oct 13, 2010 3:45 am

    Woohooooooooooo congratulations Smile
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    Post by kel on Wed Oct 13, 2010 4:10 am

    congratulations hun Smile


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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by jessie1602 on Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:18 am

    Well done Damo, can't wait to hear when the fry hatch :-)
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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by sgraye on Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:35 am

    Great news, we've got a right baby boom between us going
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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by damo2904 on Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:38 am

    Well what confusion.......

    Following on from my previous, i saw them wrap once, kinda thought i'll leave them to it and will check back in 20mins.
    Came back and male was attending to nest and female was on the other side of the tank hiding under a plant - so i removed her presuming she'd done.

    The eggs were visible....male was putting them in his mouth, swishing them around them spitting them back up in the nest. (I was thinking...GREAT!!) Laughing

    Went back to check later and he is acting abit werid, he keeps switching from either moving around the tank slumped on the floor, down and looking really depressed, to sitting on a plant under the nest staring up at it.....? scratch

    The are not in sight anymore from what i can see, but i think i can see them wedged right at the top of a clump of bubbles under the leaf......quite hard to see, i think he's shoved them right up inside.... Shocked

    maybe? I'm confused!?
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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by damo2904 on Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:46 am

    Spawn pics.

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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by MandyD on Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:14 am

    The only thing I could say is the water level is a bit high there? I was told to lower the water level when ready for them to spawn as it's not so far for the little man to keep swimming up and down. Guess he could be exhausted?

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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by Storm on Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:15 am

    HMMM i hope hes just moving them around and not eating them. Goodluck and i hope you have some wrigglers soon Smile. I think all betta dads get down in the dumps when spawning. Maybe he was just resting? Is he still tending nest now?


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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by damo2904 on Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:34 am

    he's in the area, either hanging underneath it or lying on the floor against the pot under it?

    u think he's exhausted, the water level is 6 inches deep, i thought thats what it was suppose to be??? Pasty & Wizard managed fine with this level.

    i think the eggs are at the top of the nest, i pretty sure they are what am looking at.

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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by Storm on Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:37 am

    Maybe hes just resting before the work begins?


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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by kel on Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:40 am

    He could be still trying to figure out what he has to do

    he's got eggs, got nest, now he's being lazier than most.. I've had a few like that... barely bother with the nest of eggs until the eggs start to spin and drop.

    Can only wait and see.. might be worth trying him with a few pellets at far end of tank if he'll come over... reduce the chances of him seeing them as lunch. Don't offer live food!


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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by MandyD on Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:40 am

    It could be, or he could just be resting, pictures are decieiving, it looks more than 6 inches there, but then I dont know the size of the tank. 6 inches is fine and what I normally work to Very Happy
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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by damo2904 on Wed Oct 13, 2010 9:36 am

    I've just given him some pellets like you said kel, he was on the opposite side of the tank, he does seem very down and not as quirky as he usually is.....

    will see how he is tomorrow and maybe I might have to think about taking him out..... Question - he's obviously not happy in there.

    will the fry manage on there own if worst comes to the worst???
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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by Chard56 on Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:15 pm

    If that becomes the case you need to lower the water to an inch and a half or two and add Methylene blue to their water. That way they don't have far to go to the surface. Otherwise they will most likely die if they are not swimming on their own.

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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by Storm on Wed Oct 13, 2010 6:36 pm

    How are things this morning?


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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by damo2904 on Wed Oct 13, 2010 8:31 pm

    He seemed abit more perked up this morning. I fed him pellets last night, maybe he was hungry? He has been fed looooads over past week or so though in order to condition.
    Will see what he's like when they hatch.
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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by damo2904 on Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:25 am

    It's been about 26hrs & still no tail or wriggling.....?
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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by jessie1602 on Thu Oct 14, 2010 4:33 am

    What's the tank temp at?
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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by damo2904 on Thu Oct 14, 2010 5:52 am

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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by damo2904 on Thu Oct 14, 2010 6:37 am

    Have just had decent look, actually lifted the leaf slightly in which the eggs were under, couldn't see no eggs are fry or anything. I think he may have had a munch!!!

    I'm gonna leave it for awhile....till tomorrow then may start again. Will the male be ok to spawn again so soon? The female will take 16 days isn't it until she becomes ready again....thing is yesterday I removed her and she was still dropping eggs which makes me think that I don't think she'd quite finished.....?
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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by silverrabbit on Thu Oct 14, 2010 7:04 am

    Aww no i'm sorry Sad there might be some eggs lurking though - have you looked to see if he's bubbled under plants?

    TBH I think it's fairer to let them recover for a few days, reduces the risk of losing them to stress
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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by kel on Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:38 am

    female will continually form eggs but it's not reccommended to spawn within 14days (ie. recondition)

    male eating fry would explain his disinterest and it would be worth overloading him with food before next attempt.

    with him not losing out too many days of feeding compared to if he had a spawn then yes you could prob try them in about 10-14 days... just don't do such a short gap too often as it does wear them out.


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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by damo2904 on Fri Oct 15, 2010 8:15 am

    Well unfortunately the spawn wasn't successful, i left it until i got home from work today to see if anything had hatched & there was nothing. Sad

    Therefore, i have cleaned the tank out, re-arranged all the decor, set up some new areas for the nest, only filled to 4 inches & re-introduced the male into the tank.
    ...oh & took your advice kel and overfed him so hopefully wont be a chance of a reoeat performance!!!!! Evil or Very Mad

    I am conditioning the female again in her chimeny, but hid her behind a bush so he cant see her very well for time being, but he can get a sense she's there. Hopefully will encourage them both to freshen up again.

    Therefore....watch this space....... cheers

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    Re: SHOCK Spawn!!!

    Post by Storm on Fri Oct 15, 2010 10:55 pm

    Hold on a second, you say they were not spawning for long ( i will check that lol). Is it possible they never got it right, therefore the male ate the unfertilized eggs?


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