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    Post by silverrabbit Sun Oct 10, 2010 5:55 am

    Well FINALLY a pair that were at the same stages during the spawning process, and a male who doesn't scoff all the eggs Rolling Eyes

    Eros was really good, Rosie only has slight tail damage and that was from the last few mins when I was trying to get her out. Missed the beginning of the wrapping as I accidentally fell asleep lol, but when I woke up they were in the middle of it XD

    TBH she had LOADS more to give but I think Eros was tired from trying to wrap her - she is big anyway but the egg belly is massive, and he had some trouble getting the wrap right. She also kept trying to eat the eggs so he was having to keep pushing her from under the nest lol. In the end he got fed up and started nipping and chasing her away so removed her. Not many eggs that I can see so i'm hoping at least a few are fertile!

    Been watching him, it's really interesting watching instinct kick in. At first I thought he was eating the eggs but he was just cleaning them as he put them back gently afterwards I love you So far seems like a great daddy, keeps refreshing the bubbles and is on patrol around the tank and searching the floor for any lost eggs.

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    Wish me luck, I am desperate for fry!


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    Post by sgraye Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:19 am

    Hope you get some, and that male is gorgeous is he a dragon,
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    Post by silverrabbit Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:37 am

    Thanks Smile not complete dragon I don't think as he is missing a few thicker scales on one side, but he has some dragon scaling
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    Post by Storm Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:00 am

    WOW siler great pair and i hope everything goes well keep us updated hun Smile
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    Post by silverrabbit Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:09 am

    Thanks Storm Smile
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    Post by jessie1602 Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:29 am

    Babies babies babies!! Wishing lots of fertile thoughts your way LOLOLLLLLL!
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    Post by silverrabbit Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:00 am

    Thanks Jess Very Happy He's constantly cleaning his eggs lol, is this normal?! He's moved them now, right to the back of the cup where I have to crouch on the floor and squint to see them. Think I have to tame down my looking haha.

    So... going by Kel's knowledge, if I bred a baby back to dad, I should get DTs? study I'll be happy with the wide dorsal as I think it's so pretty. Think it was on Bettysplendens (not 100% though) that I saw fry with long dorsals and they were soooo cute.
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    Post by Chard56 Sun Oct 10, 2010 1:21 pm

    Yes to DT's from daughter to father spawn. I've had males that have the fry scattered from one side to the other with 5 or 6 little nests hilly nilly.
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    Post by jessie1602 Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:01 pm

    Sounds like a fun breeding project for you Lou, even the 'inbetween' babies will be nice looking :-)

    It's totally normal for the males to constantly preen the eggs and move them and check them and basically be completely OCD about them lol. They even move the fry around to stop them getting fungusy too. It's a horrible moment when you think the eggs are gone but really the males just moved them! I must be his way of telling you to take a hike :-P
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    Post by sgraye Sun Oct 10, 2010 6:41 pm

    The first time my male moved them i thought he had eaten them, i panicked and shouted WHAT HAVE YOU DONE BOY, then realised he had moved the lot, oops sorry, had no faith in him, how wrong was i
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    Post by jessie1602 Sun Oct 10, 2010 7:08 pm

    We're so untrusting of our boys, LOL!!

    I wonder if you took a sibling pair from this spawn, the male and female with the widest dorsal fins, and bred them together, since their both DT gene carriers would they get some DT babies in their own spawn?
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    Post by silverrabbit Sun Oct 10, 2010 8:30 pm

    ^That would be an interesting spawn too Jess, maybe I can do both - father/daughter to perfect tail and maybe try a sibling pair to get the colour I want most and then compare Smile

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    ARGH

    So, woke up and I see one egg - I think it's an egg. He doesn't look fat so it doesn't seem like he's eaten them ALL (when I had a close look at a pic I took it looked like about 20 and that's enough to make his belly big).

    He's still faffing around under his nest cleaning bubbles and such, so is there a chance the eggs are still in there somewhere? Suspect

    second ARGH

    Eros seems to have ich Sad he has 2 spots, what do I do?! It says on the bottle that I can use the eSHa EXIT with fry, but not too sure. You can add meth blue to a spawning tank can't you?
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    Post by jessie1602 Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:15 pm

    I'd love to have a go at that too, see if a sibling pair produce any DT's *hint hint* :-D I'm so excited to see what colours you're going to get, so many different possibilities :-)

    Posted on other board about this hun, I may or may not be of use lol. I'll copy and paste incase anyone on this board can correct me/add to it:

    Don't lose hope yet Lou, the males tend to really shove the eggs far out of reach in the nest so there might be some really out of sight. If the nest was empty it's unlikely he'd still bother preening the bubbles. I didn't think I had many eggs with Mars and Lily, but even after he ate some (maybe they were bad ones maybe not) I seem to have more fry than I saw eggs. roll on 4pm!

    Ugh the ich is horrible timing. You can use meth blue with eggs and fry, but don't use a full dose. You may even want to think about removing him once the fry are hatched, and the lowering the water in the tank to about an inch so the fry don't have fall to fall/swim back up, then once they're a bit stronger and older you can start adding clean water into the tank to raise the level. I have no experience in doing that though so you might want to research or get advice from someone not a newb!

    Keep me posted, if there's anything I can do let me know! Im making you an e-cuppa in moral support!
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    Post by silverrabbit Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:34 pm

    Thanks hun Very Happy I really do hope he hasn't eaten them all. Might add a small amount of meth blue to the tank, if people use it for preventing fungusy eggs then I think it's the better way to go that a med that I haven't heard people use with eggs.

    E-cuppa much appreciated lol!
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    Post by jessie1602 Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:54 pm

    That sounds like the best idea, go with something you know for sure is tried and tested and safe on eggs.

    I must've gone through 50 cuppas in the last 24 hours...might have to move on to something stronger until Mars is out LOL. I'm thinking of you hun, keeping everything crossed X
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    Post by silverrabbit Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:39 pm

    Haha my face is like this Suspect constantly. Trying my best to not peer in too often but it's hard to resist when you don't know what's going on in there!
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    Post by jessie1602 Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:41 pm

    We should invent BettaCams. Little tiny cameras that you hook up via suction cup inside the tank and you can point them at the nest, and hook it up to the laptop and zoom in and all that. Then the nest and male wouldn't be disturbed, but we'd get to spy to our hearts content LOL. We'd be millionaires I tells ya!
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    Post by silverrabbit Sun Oct 10, 2010 10:44 pm

    Ahahahaha lol! OMG we NEED them, they would make life so much easier. Although wonder if the male's would get paranoid and bubble over the lens haha.
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    Post by silverrabbit Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:50 am

    Hmm, 28hrs15mins since female removed, no sign of movement yet. Have added a small dose of meth blue as didn't want Eros' ich to get out of hand. He seems very focused on the nest, blowing more bubbles and cleaning the eggs and moving them around. I can see about 4, but earlier I couldn't see any. He keeps pulling them down from far up in the bubbles so at least I an see them now
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    Post by MandyD Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:02 am

    Patent the idea quick LOL
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    Post by silverrabbit Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:03 am

    lol!
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    Post by Storm Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:50 am

    Have we get any wrigglers
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    Post by silverrabbit Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:00 am

    Not yet, though I think I can see black dots on the egg closest to the front of the tank Suspect i'm thinking it might happen during the night.
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    Post by Storm Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:01 am

    AWWW its starting yey!
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    Post by silverrabbit Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:03 am

    He's definitely still fussing over the eggs so i'm really hoping they hatch now! And that he won't eat them!

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