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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by Teri on Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:01 am

    Lol 6 is pretty good going Smile
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by magzmoir on Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:52 am

    lol 6 with a 50ml syringe before I gave up, didnt get rid of much of the crud I chickened out Embarassed

    Just checked on them 10 mins ago (Im up and down to the tank like every half hour lol) its fun to watch the little tiny wigglers whizzing around and hiding under the plant leaves. Theres a few lying on the bottom of the tank some of them moving but cant tell if the ones that arent moving are dead or alive down there....is that normal ?
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by kel on Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:57 am

    yes, you'd prob find that if you swirled the water near them they'll try to swim again

    although do expect a numbers drop in the first week, this is when you will lose fry most.....
    by 3-4 weeks very few to none, then panic about how many containers you might need for the males lol


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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by kazzabaileyanna on Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:58 am

    on average how many fry can you expect? and male/female ratio - obviously I know that all the males would have to be split up.. I imagine it would be a nightmare trying to find room for them all!
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by kel on Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:06 am

    about 30 fry to adult would be a normal spawn but you do often get the odd spawns that are 100+

    in regards to male/female ratio it's anyones guess.
    some peeps belive temps ph etc. can all affect the outcome and there was also a study done by Gene Lucas that states the age of the parents makes a difference.
    Older male with younger female enhances the chance of more males in spawn and vice versa.

    Finding room for fry isn't so hard, it's surprising how you can improvise for those few jarred weeks before selling or moving them on but the time doing water changes and trying to keep them all at the right temp is hard going lol


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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by Time-Out on Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:01 am

    A YouTube vid that made me laugh was Betta Breeding 4 (or something like that). It showed someones bedroom with literally EVERY surface COVERED in jars. Needless to say, that's not a video to share with your other half...
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by magzmoir on Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:08 am

    lmao I think hes gonna kill me pmsl
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by kel on Wed Jul 21, 2010 8:19 am

    Time-Out wrote:A YouTube vid that made me laugh was Betta Breeding 4 (or something like that). It showed someones bedroom with literally EVERY surface COVERED in jars. Needless to say, that's not a video to share with your other half...

    got a link?

    I can wait to see chards bedroom again when he jars all these spawns he's got at the minute too! Shocked


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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by magzmoir on Fri Jul 23, 2010 4:32 am

    Just a quick update, I have no idea how many fry I have but for the past 3 days Ive been feeding them mirco worms with a drop of liquifry mixed in and syringed into the tank. I couldnt see them doing much with the worms but today I managed to spot 1 or 2 grabbing and eating them cheers Ive got some plants in there I think the majority of the fry are hiding in there but occasionally they all seem to collect in one corner of the tank. Its like they are having a wee party laugh
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by Time-Out on Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:27 am

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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by magzmoir on Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:10 am

    Hehe well if dave complains Im gonna show him that and say 'see it could be worse' Razz
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by shadow_banshee on Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:55 am

    lol it gets worse than that on a big spawn Shocked
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by Bettanut on Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:25 pm

    Goodluck with the little ones .
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by magzmoir on Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:46 pm

    Well another quick update

    Im at the 2wk mark now and feeding about 3 - 4 times a day on a mix of BBS, Microworms and a few drops of liquifry all mixed together. Little worried about feeding the BBS when I tried feeding that alone I could see the salt water from the BBS mixture goinginto the water the babies are in, is there an easy way to get the BBS out of the salt water I hatched them in to feed them without adding it to their tank ?

    I keep trying to count them and keep loosing count lol last time I tried I lost count at 80.

    Also I now have baby malawi's too, had to fish a few out the main tank and moved a holding female into a nursery tank. Not sure how many Im going to get from her as she still isnt giving them up yet lol.
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by Time-Out on Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:55 pm

    What I did to count mine is, when you do a 100% water change, or move them to another tank, or whenever, just for the hell of it, put them in a small container and take a photo. Upload the photo to your pc and view it full screen. Get a clear plastic sheet, like one of those pockets for bind folders, and stick it to your screen (bluetack or sellotape). Then tick them off as you count Smile

    It drives me nuts not knowing lol
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by magzmoir on Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:32 am

    Oh thats a great idea, I dont think I'll be moving them for another couple of weeks at least they are still pretty small, but I think if I dont loose many more Im going to have to put them in a much bigger tank for growing them out. I might try that with them then I can get a realistic number of how many I have......atm Im guestimating that I have over 100 in a 20l tank Shocked

    Was checking them out and some are starting to get a proper tail now (little forked tail), not just the little tadpole style tail. Im wondering if I should put a better healter in to help them grow a bit faster, the one Ive got is a pre set mini heater and its keeping the water just under 80F which is a little lower than I wanted them at.
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by magzmoir on Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:05 pm

    Oh well looks like I wont be doing that after all.

    Did a water change last night around 7pm checked them before bed and gave last feed, woke up this morning to a total wipe out. Whole batch of fry dead Sad

    I guess things had just been going too smoothly for me Sad I dont know what killed them all in one go but my only guess is that my buckets of aged and conditioned water have been contaminated with something. Luckily with my other tanks its just a weekly change the fry tank was getting 2 changes, one mid week and one at weekend.

    Guess I best have a week or 2 to mope about it and start over again....
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by Bettanut on Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:32 pm

    So sorry that your fry didn't make it Magzmoir
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by Teri on Sat Aug 07, 2010 1:14 am

    So sorry hun, it happens to all of us.. Out of 4 spawns so far I have 5 babies!!! Just stick with it hun (hugs)
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by magzmoir on Sat Aug 07, 2010 5:46 am

    Thanks guys, I am just really annoyed with myself keep thinking I must have done somthing really stupid to kill them all off Sad but for the life of me I cant think what.
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by silverrabbit on Sat Aug 07, 2010 6:29 am

    sorry you lost them Sad
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    Re: First attempt....

    Post by kel on Sat Aug 07, 2010 8:05 am

    a lot of it seems to be luck and fry hardiness

    moving/water changes are all a fine line of wipe outs just the same as under or over feeding

    spawn a lfs vt and you'd have hundreds! show line are delicate to say the least



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